Notes and Queries, Number 59, December 14, 1850 eBook

This eBook from the Gutenberg Project consists of approximately 51 pages of information about Notes and Queries, Number 59, December 14, 1850.

Notes and Queries, Number 59, December 14, 1850 eBook

This eBook from the Gutenberg Project consists of approximately 51 pages of information about Notes and Queries, Number 59, December 14, 1850.

Yet six years later, 1205 (Hardy, i. 310 )—­

    “Waleran de Monceux gives 100 marks for having the reasonable
    (rationabilis) part of the inheritance of Juliana, as regards (versus)
    Wm. de Warburton, William and Waleran being her next of kin.”

This Waleran was son of Idonea de Herst (now Herst Monceux), and appears in other documents as “Waleran de Herst.”  The land in question was in Compton (afterwards Compton Monceux), Hants.

Now how are we to reconcile the two above-quoted documents?  What was the connexion {478} between Ingelram and Waleran?  And how is Waleran’s double appellation to be explained?  I see a reference to a family named de Mounceaux in the last number of the Archaeological Journal, p. 300., holding a manor near Hawbridge, Somerset Were they of the same stock?

3.  The magnificent monument in Herstmonceux church to Thomas Lord Dacre (who died 1534), and his eldest son, is embellished with a considerable number of coats of arms, several of which I am unable to identity with any connexions of the family.  These are,—­(1.) Sable, a cross or; (2.) Barry of six, ar. and az., a bend gules; (3.) Arg. a fesse gules; (4.) Quarterly or, and gules, an escarbuncle sable; (5.) Barry of six, arg. and gules; (6.) Azure, an orle of martlets or, on an inescutcheon arg. three bass gules.

Can any of your readers, acquainted with the Dacre and Fienes pedigrees, appropriate any of these coats?

4.  A suite of small bed-rooms, and the gallery from which they opened, in Herstmonceux Castle, were called respectively the Bethlem Chambers and Bethlem Gallery:  is any instance of a similar denomination of apartments known, and can the reason be assigned?

5.  Sir Roger Fienes, the builder of Herstmonceux Castle, accompanied Henry V. to Agincourt.  Are any references to him to be found in Sir H. Nicolas’ Battle of Azincourt, or elsewhere?

6.  Francis Lord Dacre was one of the noble twelve who had the courage to appear in their places in the House of Lords and reject the ordinance for the trial of Charles I. His son Thomas, who married the daughter of Charles II. by the Duchess of Cleveland, and was created Earl of Sussex, was compelled through his extravagance to alienate the castle and manor of Herstmonceux.  Are there any references to either of these peers, who played a not inconspicuous part in the events of their times, in any of the contemporary memoirs?  Any information on any of the above points would greatly oblige

E.V.

Herstmonceux, Nov. 18.

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MINOR QUERIES.

Yorkshire Ballads.—­Any of your readers would confer a great favour by referring me to any early Yorkshire ballads, or ballads relating to places in Yorkshire, not reprinted in the ordinary collections, such as Percy, Evans, &c.  I am of course acquainted with those in the Roxburghe collection.

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