in the middest of their Campe, shoulde be founde there and lefte untouched?  As is redde, that in the auncient armies manie times hapned.  What thynge maye I promis them, by meane wherof thei may have me in reverence to love, or to feare, when the warre beyng ended, they have not anie more to doe with me? wher of maie I make them ashamed, whiche be borne and brought up without shame? whie shoulde thei be ruled by me who knowe me not?  By what God or by what sainctes may I make them to sweare?  By those that thei worship, or by those that they blaspheme?  Who they worship I knowe not anie:  but I knowe well they blaspheme all.  How shoulde I beleeve that thei will keepe their promise to them, whome everie hower they dispise?  How can they, that dispise God, reverence men?  Then what good fashion shoulde that be, whiche might be impressed in this matter?  And if you should aledge unto me that Suyzzers and Spaniardes bee good souldiours, I woulde confesse unto you, how they be farre better then the Italians:  but if you note my reasonynge, and the maner of procedyng of bothe, you shall see, howe they lacke many thynges to joygne to the perfection of the antiquetie.  And how the Suyzzers be made good of one of their naturall uses caused of that, whiche to daie I tolde you:  those other are made good by mean of a necessitie:  for that servyng in a straunge countrie, and seemyng unto them to be constrained either to die, or to overcome, thei perceivynge to have no place to flie, doe become good:  but it is a goodnesse in manie partes fawtie:  for that in the same there is no other good, but that they bee accustomed to tarie the enemie at the Pike and sweardes poincte:  nor that, which thei lacke, no man should be meete to teache them, and so much the lesse, he that coulde not speake their language.

[Sidenote:  The Auctor excuseth the people of Italie to the great reproche of their prynces for their ignorance in the affaires of warre.]

But let us turne to the Italians, who for havynge not had wise Princes, have not taken anie good order:  and for havyng not had the same necessitie, whiche the Spaniardes have hadde, they have not taken it of theim selves, so that they remaine the shame of the worlde:  and the people be not to blame, but onely their princes, who have ben chastised, and for their ignorance have ben justely punisshed, leesinge moste shamefully their states, without shewing anie vertuous ensample.  And if you will see whether this that I say be trew:  consider how manie warres have ben in Italie since the departure of kyng Charles to this day, where the war beyng wonte to make men warlyke and of reputacion, these the greater and fierser that they have been, so muche the more they have made the reputacion of the members and of the headdes therof to bee loste.  This proveth that it groweth, that the accustomed orders were not nor bee not good, and of the newe orders, there is not anie whiche have knowen how to take them.  Nor never beleeve that